Discussion:
[Samba] samba 4 AD and master browser
Trenta sis
2016-06-20 16:14:22 UTC
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Hi,

I'm migrating samba 3 nt domain (openldap + samba) to samba 4 AD, and we
detected taht one of features, master browser is not working in samba 4 AD.
I have searched some info and I have found:
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/FAQ
"
Why is Network Neighbourhood empty or does not show all machines in an
Samba AD environment?

The master browser code in smbd does not collect names because the netbios
server in the AD DC does not have the browsing code in it. We would like to
add that, but it just is a matter of a developer finding it to be a
personal (or employer) priority. (Sadly on the AD DC, there isn't spare
developer time just floating around).

"

and

https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/ActiveDirectory#Browsing_.28Domain_Master_Browser.29


It seem that is not available in samba 4? I need this feature how can I
recover this feature in samba 4 if we are evaluating to migrate from samba
3 nt domain?

Thanks
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Trenta sis
2016-06-20 16:49:58 UTC
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First of all, thanks for you answer.

"Problem" is that our users are using this feature, and if we can keep this
should be the best option to ensure that our user have detecte any
difference with samba 3 and samba 4...

Other options, it could be bia gpo add a shortcut to computer in desktop,
to emulate/simulate same feature, user normally only use one machine,
fileserver... It is possible?

Thanks
Post by Trenta sis
Hi,
I'm migrating samba 3 nt domain (openldap + samba) to samba 4 AD, and we
detected taht one of features, master browser is not working in samba 4 AD.
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/FAQ
"
Why is Network Neighbourhood empty or does not show all machines in an
Samba AD environment?
The master browser code in smbd does not collect names because the netbios
server in the AD DC does not have the browsing code in it. We would like to
add that, but it just is a matter of a developer finding it to be a
personal (or employer) priority. (Sadly on the AD DC, there isn't spare
developer time just floating around).
"
and
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/ActiveDirectory#Browsing_.28Domain_Master_Browser.29
It seem that is not available in samba 4? I need this feature how can I
recover this feature in samba 4 if we are evaluating to migrate from samba
3 nt domain?
Thanks
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Trenta sis
2016-06-20 16:51:43 UTC
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Tried with a windows 2008 r2 AD master brouser is available, microsoft is
migrating to what option?
Post by Trenta sis
First of all, thanks for you answer.
"Problem" is that our users are using this feature, and if we can keep
this should be the best option to ensure that our user have detecte any
difference with samba 3 and samba 4...
Other options, it could be bia gpo add a shortcut to computer in desktop,
to emulate/simulate same feature, user normally only use one machine,
fileserver... It is possible?
Thanks
Post by Trenta sis
Hi,
I'm migrating samba 3 nt domain (openldap + samba) to samba 4 AD, and we
detected taht one of features, master browser is not working in samba 4 AD.
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/FAQ
"
Why is Network Neighbourhood empty or does not show all machines in an
Samba AD environment?
The master browser code in smbd does not collect names because the
netbios server in the AD DC does not have the browsing code in it. We would
like to add that, but it just is a matter of a developer finding it to be a
personal (or employer) priority. (Sadly on the AD DC, there isn't spare
developer time just floating around).
"
and
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/ActiveDirectory#Browsing_.28Domain_Master_Browser.29
It seem that is not available in samba 4? I need this feature how can I
recover this feature in samba 4 if we are evaluating to migrate from samba
3 nt domain?
Thanks
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Trenta sis
2016-06-21 06:30:46 UTC
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Hi,

Thanks for your information, I'll try other options

Thanks
Post by Trenta sis
Tried with a windows 2008 r2 AD master brouser is available, microsoft is
migrating to what option?
Post by Trenta sis
First of all, thanks for you answer.
"Problem" is that our users are using this feature, and if we can keep
this should be the best option to ensure that our user have detecte any
difference with samba 3 and samba 4...
Other options, it could be bia gpo add a shortcut to computer in desktop,
to emulate/simulate same feature, user normally only use one machine,
fileserver... It is possible?
Thanks
Post by Trenta sis
Hi,
I'm migrating samba 3 nt domain (openldap + samba) to samba 4 AD, and we
detected taht one of features, master browser is not working in samba 4 AD.
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/FAQ
"
Why is Network Neighbourhood empty or does not show all machines in an
Samba AD environment?
The master browser code in smbd does not collect names because the
netbios server in the AD DC does not have the browsing code in it. We would
like to add that, but it just is a matter of a developer finding it to be a
personal (or employer) priority. (Sadly on the AD DC, there isn't spare
developer time just floating around).
"
and
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/ActiveDirectory#Browsing_.28Domain_Master_Browser.29
It seem that is not available in samba 4? I need this feature how can I
recover this feature in samba 4 if we are evaluating to migrate from samba
3 nt domain?
Thanks
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mathias dufresne
2016-06-21 14:32:56 UTC
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Just run some samba as file server, or perhaps you can even just run nmbd
on another host than on your DC.
That host running nmbd will participate to browsing election, it should win
election if you ask for it in smb.conf. Only DC won't appear in network
neighborhood, which is not an issue as even your users loves waste your
company time in searching in network neighborhood, they have nothing to do
on DC.

Cheers,

mathias
Post by Trenta sis
Hi,
Thanks for your information, I'll try other options
Thanks
Post by Trenta sis
Tried with a windows 2008 r2 AD master brouser is available, microsoft is
migrating to what option?
Post by Trenta sis
First of all, thanks for you answer.
"Problem" is that our users are using this feature, and if we can keep
this should be the best option to ensure that our user have detecte any
difference with samba 3 and samba 4...
Other options, it could be bia gpo add a shortcut to computer in
desktop,
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
to emulate/simulate same feature, user normally only use one machine,
fileserver... It is possible?
Thanks
Post by Trenta sis
Hi,
I'm migrating samba 3 nt domain (openldap + samba) to samba 4 AD, and
we
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
detected taht one of features, master browser is not working in samba
4 AD.
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/FAQ
"
Why is Network Neighbourhood empty or does not show all machines in an
Samba AD environment?
The master browser code in smbd does not collect names because the
netbios server in the AD DC does not have the browsing code in it. We
would
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
like to add that, but it just is a matter of a developer finding it to
be a
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
personal (or employer) priority. (Sadly on the AD DC, there isn't spare
developer time just floating around).
"
and
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/ActiveDirectory#Browsing_.28Domain_Master_Browser.29
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
It seem that is not available in samba 4? I need this feature how can I
recover this feature in samba 4 if we are evaluating to migrate from
samba
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
3 nt domain?
Thanks
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Trenta sis
2016-06-22 09:17:07 UTC
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Thans for you answer!

I'll try to install samba as file server...
Thanks
Post by mathias dufresne
Just run some samba as file server, or perhaps you can even just run nmbd
on another host than on your DC.
That host running nmbd will participate to browsing election, it should
win election if you ask for it in smb.conf. Only DC won't appear in network
neighborhood, which is not an issue as even your users loves waste your
company time in searching in network neighborhood, they have nothing to do
on DC.
Cheers,
mathias
Post by Trenta sis
Hi,
Thanks for your information, I'll try other options
Thanks
Post by Trenta sis
Tried with a windows 2008 r2 AD master brouser is available, microsoft
is
Post by Trenta sis
migrating to what option?
Post by Trenta sis
First of all, thanks for you answer.
"Problem" is that our users are using this feature, and if we can keep
this should be the best option to ensure that our user have detecte any
difference with samba 3 and samba 4...
Other options, it could be bia gpo add a shortcut to computer in
desktop,
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
to emulate/simulate same feature, user normally only use one machine,
fileserver... It is possible?
Thanks
Post by Trenta sis
Hi,
I'm migrating samba 3 nt domain (openldap + samba) to samba 4 AD, and
we
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
detected taht one of features, master browser is not working in samba
4 AD.
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/FAQ
"
Why is Network Neighbourhood empty or does not show all machines in an
Samba AD environment?
The master browser code in smbd does not collect names because the
netbios server in the AD DC does not have the browsing code in it. We
would
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
like to add that, but it just is a matter of a developer finding it
to be a
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
personal (or employer) priority. (Sadly on the AD DC, there isn't
spare
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
developer time just floating around).
"
and
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/ActiveDirectory#Browsing_.28Domain_Master_Browser.29
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
It seem that is not available in samba 4? I need this feature how can
I
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
recover this feature in samba 4 if we are evaluating to migrate from
samba
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
Post by Trenta sis
3 nt domain?
Thanks
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David STIEVENARD
2016-06-23 02:20:02 UTC
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Hi Trenta,

I agree with Rowland, not relying on network neighborhood seems to be
not so new (at least for me).

In a company (7000+ users) I worked for in the past (in 2000), they were
using NT domains and then AD :
- users didn't choose which share they could connect to, it was
automatically mapped for them
- and as a network administrator dns resolution was the standard and
netbios was not welcomed

You might have to consider a scenario in your project where you change
to ways your users access to shares.

Be strong !! :)
DS
Post by Trenta sis
Hi,
I'm migrating samba 3 nt domain (openldap + samba) to samba 4 AD, and we
detected taht one of features, master browser is not working in samba 4 AD.
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/FAQ
"
Why is Network Neighbourhood empty or does not show all machines in an
Samba AD environment?
The master browser code in smbd does not collect names because the netbios
server in the AD DC does not have the browsing code in it. We would like to
add that, but it just is a matter of a developer finding it to be a
personal (or employer) priority. (Sadly on the AD DC, there isn't spare
developer time just floating around).
"
and
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/ActiveDirectory#Browsing_.28Domain_Master_Browser.29
It seem that is not available in samba 4? I need this feature how can I
recover this feature in samba 4 if we are evaluating to migrate from samba
3 nt domain?
Thanks
Why do you *need* this feature ? Microsoft is moving away from network
browsing. Active Directory uses DNS instead of TCP/IP, so you should
get used to navigating to shares via DNS name.
Rowland
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