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[Samba] Wsus
Carlos A. P. Cunha
2016-07-15 14:48:35 UTC
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Hello!
It is possible to have a WSUS with Samba 4?

Thanks
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Carlos A. P. Cunha
2016-07-15 16:34:11 UTC
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Unfortunately I am not :-D
Hello,
Post by Carlos A. P. Cunha
It is possible to have a WSUS with Samba 4?
Yes, as long as you run it on a Windows Server, of course. :-)
Regards,
Marc
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Thomas Maerz
2016-07-15 16:42:17 UTC
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You can join a Windows Server to a Samba4 Domain controller and set up the WSUS server role and it should work. HOWEVER, if you are going to point all your devices at the WSUS server, you will require CALs for the devices or the users using them to maintain licensing compliance with Microsoft. At this point, you have paid for the number of Windows Server CALs you need to run actual Active Directory and may as well not use Samba at all as it is arguably less reliable (in some situations) and feature rich than a modern Microsoft AD implementation.

Thomas Maerz
Hello,
Post by Carlos A. P. Cunha
It is possible to have a WSUS with Samba 4?
Yes, as long as you run it on a Windows Server, of course. :-)
Regards,
Marc
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Carlos A. P. Cunha
2016-07-15 16:44:32 UTC
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ok, I thought it might have something similar in Samba 4 with WSUS
because my network does not have Windows Server.
Thank you
Post by Thomas Maerz
You can join a Windows Server to a Samba4 Domain controller and set up
the WSUS server role and it should work. HOWEVER, if you are going to
point all your devices at the WSUS server, you will require CALs for
the devices or the users using them to maintain licensing compliance
with Microsoft. At this point, you have paid for the number of Windows
Server CALs you need to run actual Active Directory and may as well
not use Samba at all as it is arguably less reliable (in some
situations) and feature rich than a modern Microsoft AD implementation.
Thomas Maerz
Hello,
Post by Carlos A. P. Cunha
It is possible to have a WSUS with Samba 4?
Yes, as long as you run it on a Windows Server, of course. :-)
Regards,
Marc
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Thomas Maerz
2016-07-15 16:53:20 UTC
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Some things to check out for linux-based patch management of Windows (and other) clients: http://vfense.github.io/vFense/ <http://vfense.github.io/vFense/> http://www.opsi.org/en <http://www.opsi.org/en>

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ok, I thought it might have something similar in Samba 4 with WSUS because my network does not have Windows Server.
Thank you
Post by Thomas Maerz
You can join a Windows Server to a Samba4 Domain controller and set up the WSUS server role and it should work. HOWEVER, if you are going to point all your devices at the WSUS server, you will require CALs for the devices or the users using them to maintain licensing compliance with Microsoft. At this point, you have paid for the number of Windows Server CALs you need to run actual Active Directory and may as well not use Samba at all as it is arguably less reliable (in some situations) and feature rich than a modern Microsoft AD implementation.
Thomas Maerz
Hello,
Post by Carlos A. P. Cunha
It is possible to have a WSUS with Samba 4?
Yes, as long as you run it on a Windows Server, of course. :-)
Regards,
Marc
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Thomas Maerz
2016-07-15 17:09:32 UTC
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One more: https://wpkg.org/ <https://wpkg.org/>

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Some things to check out for linux-based patch management of Windows (and other) clients: http://vfense.github.io/vFense/ <http://vfense.github.io/vFense/> <http://vfense.github.io/vFense/ <http://vfense.github.io/vFense/>> http://www.opsi.org/en <http://www.opsi.org/en> <http://www.opsi.org/en <http://www.opsi.org/en>>
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ok, I thought it might have something similar in Samba 4 with WSUS because my network does not have Windows Server.
Thank you
Post by Thomas Maerz
You can join a Windows Server to a Samba4 Domain controller and set up the WSUS server role and it should work. HOWEVER, if you are going to point all your devices at the WSUS server, you will require CALs for the devices or the users using them to maintain licensing compliance with Microsoft. At this point, you have paid for the number of Windows Server CALs you need to run actual Active Directory and may as well not use Samba at all as it is arguably less reliable (in some situations) and feature rich than a modern Microsoft AD implementation.
Thomas Maerz
Hello,
Post by Carlos A. P. Cunha
It is possible to have a WSUS with Samba 4?
Yes, as long as you run it on a Windows Server, of course. :-)
Regards,
Marc
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Sketch
2016-07-15 17:09:24 UTC
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Post by Thomas Maerz
You can join a Windows Server to a Samba4 Domain controller and set up
the WSUS server role and it should work. HOWEVER, if you are going to
point all your devices at the WSUS server, you will require CALs for the
devices or the users using them to maintain licensing compliance with
Microsoft. At this point, you have paid for the number of Windows Server
CALs you need to run actual Active Directory and may as well not use
Samba at all as it is arguably less reliable (in some situations) and
feature rich than a modern Microsoft AD implementation.
While that may sound like a good idea, you can't run WSUS on a domain
controller, so you're going to need at least two Windows servers.

You could run 2 windows servers on the same VM host so that they share the
same OS license. However, while I could be wrong, I don't think you can
share CALs that way.

That said, you can definitely run a WSUS server on a Samba 4 domain. All
of our DCs are S4, the only Windows server in our environement is a 2008
R2 VM running WSUS and centralized AV.
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Thomas Maerz
2016-07-15 17:12:34 UTC
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You should not need two servers. You can join a non-DC windows server to a Samba4 Domain and run WSUS on that without any Windows domain controllers at all. It sounds like he doesn’t have/want any windows servers at all, though so this may not be helpful anyway.
Post by Thomas Maerz
You can join a Windows Server to a Samba4 Domain controller and set up the WSUS server role and it should work. HOWEVER, if you are going to point all your devices at the WSUS server, you will require CALs for the devices or the users using them to maintain licensing compliance with Microsoft. At this point, you have paid for the number of Windows Server CALs you need to run actual Active Directory and may as well not use Samba at all as it is arguably less reliable (in some situations) and feature rich than a modern Microsoft AD implementation.
While that may sound like a good idea, you can't run WSUS on a domain controller, so you're going to need at least two Windows servers.
You could run 2 windows servers on the same VM host so that they share the same OS license. However, while I could be wrong, I don't think you can share CALs that way.
That said, you can definitely run a WSUS server on a Samba 4 domain. All of our DCs are S4, the only Windows server in our environement is a 2008 R2 VM running WSUS and centralized AV.
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Achim Gottinger
2016-07-15 17:30:13 UTC
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Post by Carlos A. P. Cunha
Hello!
It is possible to have a WSUS with Samba 4?
Thanks
The wsus-offline project should work linux based.

http://www.wsusoffline.net/

This german article describs how to configure the linux side of things

http://www.computerwoche.de/a/wsus-offline-update-windows-pcs-bequem-updaten,3221657

We here need windows sql servers so we use wsus running on these.

To manage software on windows clients we use opsi. It can be used to
deploy wsus-offline updates aswell.

https://trac.dass-it.de/pub/wiki/opsi#wsusoffline (Can be this packaes
does no longer work it's from 2012)
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